Dr. Phil says: “When you choose the action, you choose the consequences.”
What are the consequences of Stephen and Renee Fowler's actions?
- Stephen's name has been removed from the websites of Fulcrum Funds, Pacific Environment and Forest Ethics.
We don't know whether he got fired, resigned or this is simply a temporary measure until most people have forgotten about this. He seems to be of the professional board member and business partner type.
- He had to remove his facebook profile (he is in his late forties, go figure), his linkedin profile and his current business endeavor (terranova, the website)
- He lost out to promote himself on TV. Stephen wore his T-Shirts with intelligent messages for the stupid masses in every single video shot. After all he is in America in order to *help* us.
- They lost friends who don't share their arrogant view on their fellow citizens. I wonder how uncomfortable it must have been at their viewing party on Friday. Did the Fowlers not see the show ahead? There must have been deadly silence after the show and everyone must have left really fast. Or maybe not. In fact it probably was an excellent time to see who still had common sense and a working moral compass.
- She lost out to promote herself and her weight loss business on TV, wasn't that the purpose of going on TV in the first place?
- She has to explain to all her weight loss clients why her husband makes fun of overweight people on a national TV show. You wonder for how long her "overweight" clients were fodder for clever rhymes at the Fowler dinner table every night.
- His wife's business activities gets lots of, well, not so positive reviews on many review type websites. Her podcasts on itunes are experiencing the same fate.
On the up side all the people who share the Fowler's values will congratulate them and continue to be friends with them. On top they received $20,000 (some say it's $50,000?) for appearing on TV. Not so bad after all.
- Stephen's name has been removed from the websites of Fulcrum Funds, Pacific Environment and Forest Ethics.
We don't know whether he got fired, resigned or this is simply a temporary measure until most people have forgotten about this. He seems to be of the professional board member and business partner type.
- He had to remove his facebook profile (he is in his late forties, go figure), his linkedin profile and his current business endeavor (terranova, the website)
- He lost out to promote himself on TV. Stephen wore his T-Shirts with intelligent messages for the stupid masses in every single video shot. After all he is in America in order to *help* us.
- They lost friends who don't share their arrogant view on their fellow citizens. I wonder how uncomfortable it must have been at their viewing party on Friday. Did the Fowlers not see the show ahead? There must have been deadly silence after the show and everyone must have left really fast. Or maybe not. In fact it probably was an excellent time to see who still had common sense and a working moral compass.
- She lost out to promote herself and her weight loss business on TV, wasn't that the purpose of going on TV in the first place?
- She has to explain to all her weight loss clients why her husband makes fun of overweight people on a national TV show. You wonder for how long her "overweight" clients were fodder for clever rhymes at the Fowler dinner table every night.
- His wife's business activities gets lots of, well, not so positive reviews on many review type websites. Her podcasts on itunes are experiencing the same fate.
On the up side all the people who share the Fowler's values will congratulate them and continue to be friends with them. On top they received $20,000 (some say it's $50,000?) for appearing on TV. Not so bad after all.
it only shows you in what kind of bubble they live. I did not watch the show on tv but i did see the youtube clips. they sure sound like very pretentious people. I am sure dr phil would have a blast with them.
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Rate her podcast-
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Let the world know what kind of people they are -
1). google "mind for body san francisco"
2). Click on reviews and let the world know
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I think he is an elitist who ridicules those who cling to their guns and religion. No small wonder he lives in Mrs. Pelosi's congressional district. This is the current ruling class in America, and he was less clever than the politicians about concealing his contempt for his "inferiors".
This show touched an exposed wire in the American psyche. In sociology we discuss ethnicity, religion, race, class and gender. It's about class. Many people are worried about their job and how this country will emerge from this economic crisis. Here comes this 'top percentile' Brit to teach us backward colonists a lesson. His oppressive attitude is precisely what our immigrant ancestors sought to escape. His ideology is exclusive and elitist. It's the stuff that incites unrest in the oppressed.
I'm afraid this show is fast becoming like a modern "Uncle Tom's Cabin," story. Stephen Fowler stars as Simon Legree.
A fast test of character is how a person treats their waitress or the landscaper. It is no test when one is among superiors or peers the facade is exercised to maintain social standing. How one treats those with less money, power, education and opportunities is most telling.
BTW I am an educated Californian who has lived abroad with my European spouse.
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Hi,
Such British people ruled our great country India and put all of us natives down for 150 years. Broke our country, ripped apart our natural resources and imposed their attitude upon us. He is also being rude to a lady. they despised our great culture, did not understand our deep-rooted spirituality
Wonder who will take him if there is a hubby swap.
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Renee has been using her yahoo-group to issue statements. These are usually posted to the ABC message boards by individuals who have infiltrated the 'approval only' process of joining. ABC's goons delete these message quickly, so I post one here for the sake of public record.
This is Renee's most recent missive. I would note that it makes a 180 degree turn in tone from her first message, in which she blamed the fracas on editing and mob-psychology.
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Hi All, I am posting this statement here, and feel free to post elsewhere if
you like.
Dear Clients, Colleagues, Friends and the interested public.
I deeply appreciate the compassionate outpouring of support many of you have
shown as I struggle through this most difficult time.
Now that I have had a few days to process my own feelings, I would like to
share with you where I truly stand. I too am utterly appalled by my
husband's behavior during the swap. I had not seen the footage until Friday
night, so didn't fully know how extraordinarily badly he had behaved until I
saw it on national TV. I knew he was not proud of his behavior and that he
had many misgivings. I did not know he had been aggressively cruel and
insulting on so many levels. This has been extraordinarily difficult for me
to comprehend.
While I completely condemn his behavior, I feel confused because he has been
a loving and dedicated husband and father for many years. This in no way can
rationalize his inexcusable behavior. It is simply an explanation of why it
has taken me this long to make a statement. I have asked him to get
professional help.
I know that I created offense as well. When I made the statement about the
parents not having advanced degrees, I was responding to direct and probing
questions from the director about the level of education in the Long family.
I certainly don't think people need college degrees to live intelligent and
valuable lives, and was not passing any kind of judgment with my
comment. My edited comment regarding being an American was actually an
acknowledgement that to me, being born here isn't enough of a reason to be
proud. We each need to make meaningful contributions that we are proud of,
and acknowledge other's contributions as well. We create community and we
live honorably and that is what makes us proud. I am truly grateful to be a
part of this country
Again, thank all of you for your heartfelt comments.
Blessings,
Renee
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an interesting turn of events. I have read on several forums that people recognized his abusive behavioral pattern (malignant narcissism) from former husbands or fathers. People with this disorder always appear sweet and charming and show their true nature only to in certain situations.
Renee asked him to get professional help and I hope for her that he accepts therapy AND changes. It is interesting that he even invited friends and neighbors to view the show. He obviously did not see anything wrong in his behavior.
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As a malignant narcissist he felt delusional enough to feel safe in his superiority with the poor victim. This makes me think that he's actually intimidated by his wife because he is aware of how she would react if he showed his true colors. This poor excuse for a human picked on someone he felt was either too decent or too weak to retalliate. What a textbook case. Grotesque.
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you all should watch the final meeting between the fowlers and the longs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDPqcyjhmJk [inserted by editor, go to 2:50]
It is very telling how the longs show open-mindedness, renee is mortified, and steve lets out one insult after another ending with "God, that woman is the most stupid woman I've ever met in my life" as he walks off with renee. It is doubtful to me that this was the first time in their marriage that he has presented himself in such a way. good luck renee, you need it.
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If possible, I would try to find the original messages she posted on the weekend to her group. They originally appeared on the ABC boards, but were deleted quickly. THey're of interest because they typify a knee-jerk mechanism of hollow apologies and blame games.
Whether or not this letter reflects a truer sentiment -- or at least a more carefully considered one -- I cannot say for sure. But I would bear in mind that it has come after a weekend of denials and accusations. See Hollis Polk's pro-Stephen blog for comments of this nature. Keep in mind the Polk has heavily edited her entries, deleting initial comments which smacked of the same bigotry as Stephen's. She was called out on it -- and rather than apologise tried to 'edit out' her Stephanisms.
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Well I want to believe her, really I do the problem is she sat through the final table meeting and said nothing and the evening the show aired they had friends over "for a laugh". I hope her whole family seeks treatment the children and herself included. I have a really hard time believing that is the first time she has seen that behavior from her husband. The degrading and humiliating remarks rolled so easily off the man's tongue. Seemed like he has had a lot of practice belittling people who are beneath him (in his mind)......I guess what I want is an apology from the two of them sitting across the table from the Longs televised. They are business people that must sell themselves all the time, Renee is her product, she sells herself I think she can sell an apology.
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But this isn't the first statement she has made! She first blamed it on editing, then stress and then to playing a role. Now, when those were met with disbelief, she wants our sympathy and wants us to believe that this is the first post since the "viewing party". She had seen the entire episode that we all saw before posting the excuses listed above and only after continued outcries has she posted the "apology". Personally, I find this as hollow as the first three excuses she posted with no sincerity. I watched this episode again, especially the ending after two weeks, and found her as condescending as her husband. I think this is simply an attempt to save the business that her husband so deftly destroyed.
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I cant agree more. Its a damage control letter hoping to lure back anyone she lost. I dont quite hear the ring of sincerity in it. She wasnt shocked and appalled Friday night when it aired. As the friend who watched it with them... they all got chuckles out of "Scott" talking to an outraged viewer. Now all of a sudden she is appalled. Well duh of course she was. As she saw that shrinking bank roll.. she got *real* appalled.
But here is another possibility. Like the poster said about this being common amongst their mindset... perhaps they thought it would be laughed at as well. Too bad they were sadly mistaken. Hopefully this was a HUGE education for the Fowlers. I am sure they will think twice before they disparage middle America or the uneducated (which book smarts are not everything). Dont get me wrong... education is beautiful but it is not for everyone. We need people at all levels to make our beautiful country run.
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As one of Renee's clients I want to point out that it took a lot of courage for her to stand up to her husband (he's an intimidating man), and that's why it took a while. She is going through hell right now, questioning everything in her life. She doesn't deserve this harsh criticism. Renee is an exceptionally kind and giving person with a real passion for helping people, all kinds of people. She gave up a regular high paying job in order to follow her calling to help others and she has stuck with it despite working harder for much less financial compensation- she finds it incredibly rewarding when she helps her clients achieve huge breakthroughs in health/happiness, and she's amazingly good at it! (I had been trying everything to lose weight for 20 years and I finally did it with Renee's Method). Renee and her husband have always been very different (opposites attract?), but she never knew how very different until now (irreconcilable differences?). She failed to respond appropriately when she met with the Longs after the show because she felt some fear of standing up to Stephen, and she didn't really understand what Stephen had done to Gayla (the show maintained secrecy). She has no control over her husband, so she finally decided to just speak up for herself. Can you imagine how painful this must be for her? Renee deserves our sympathy and kindness.
P.S. She told me she did learn something important from the Longs- she wants to play more with her kids like they do. Paint ball looks fun.
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Anne,
I would buy what you're saying, to some extent, had Renee found some more public forum in which to disown her husband's behavior. But she only did this little speech for her private circle of clients -- paying members such as yourself.
I don't deny the positive influences you might have derived from Renee's 'life coaching' -- but Renee didn't offer any kind of public apology to the Longs. She posted a back channel excuse to keep her circle of clients intact. And as I heard she's lost a few, due to a sense of betrayal.
I'm sorry, but whispered apologies aren't quite as contrite. Especially when they come after a weekend of excuses.
And from what people are saying -- Friday night at the Fowler's was a real party of chuckles and backslapping. Didn't sound like much self-questioning occurred.
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Right! She doesn't agree at all "obviously they don't have a cleaning lady", "these are very humble homes" and (I paraphrase) "we didn't learn an thing.....I don't even remember what Gayla's rules were" and then that self-indulgent smile with doe eyes for her husband. It couldn't be more obvious that she felt there was nothing wrong and even agreed with his words. That was, until it backfired with the uproar and indignation from all those insulted by her husband!
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stephen+renee lmfao!!,total bs,dont believe her ,she is so full of it!and hollis.check out her videos..wow,this just couldnt be written,,its a great movie script,,stephen,renee,and hollis could play themselves.call the movie--3=evil!!,yo,i feel for those kids,man lets hope they arent all messed up! peace to u all,xcept the evil 3!!
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I'm thinking about this and wondering; How she couldn't know that her husband is a classic case of NPD.. For her to show any surprise at his behavior is just plain good acting.. Certainly with such an education in her possession she would have seen some sign of the sociopath she married. I also believe a crime has been committed in that Fowler has abused his children mentally. He has scarred his kids for life and that is a crime.
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I think she is full of baloney.
Her attitude was evident in her tone of voice and statements. There was not one shred of humility in her voice when she was saying those things, edited or not.
At least she asked him to get professional help. That's a good start. Lets see what happens.
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UPDATE:
Renee has petitioned GOogle to WIPE all of the negative reviews of her MindforBody industry!
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BTW it is not impossible that Mr. Fowler is both a good friend to his defenders and a tyrant to his maid and people of the class he so recently denigrated so spectacularly on TV.
It may very well be that he is able to insulate himself thoroughly with people only of his "class" (though honestly I would say his preoccupation with class puts him more with the lower classes) so that they've never seen this behavior before.
That being written, I shudder to think what the "downstairs" crowd is doing to his food and home. What they're cleaning his toilet with (I'm thinking his toothbrush), what they're adding to his food (won't hazard a guess here).
As a final point I would add that Damo is wrong. It isn't "us" the plebeians who had any ability to hurt his friend. We might howl but really, what can we do? The people of his own class are giving him his walking papers because of his behavior. These are people who, presumably know him, know what he's like, know his work and how valuable he is to their businesses. But even they have turned away.
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I love it. He deserves to be humiliated.
I just don't believe in wishing bad things on people so I just wish he gets what he deserves and WHALLA...wish granted.
He messed with the wrong crowd. We are the UNITED States of America and we are more UNITED these days than ever before.
I still think he should go back where he came from or make a public apology and straighten up his act.
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Stephen Fowler, or someone claiming to be him, has posted a set of apologies on ABC's message board for 'Wife Swap'.
There is no way to ascertain the real identity of the poster. ABC allows for user signups and posting permission without even confirming an e-mail address.
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Hollis Polk, America's most trusted $3/minute psychic and friend of Fowler, has turned off and deleted all comments on her blog.
I guess her sensitive aura couldn't handle people taking her to talk for her duplicitous defence of Fowler.
[editor] you are right, she defended her friends for four days until both Fowlers made statements that contradicted all of Hollis' posts, what a fine psychic she is. Hollis Polk now looks like a complete fraud.
Link with all the deleted post of Hollis Polk's blog
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Renee and Stephen have sent out their robot minions to troll the ABC message boards. Suddenly, there is a topic posted -- at fifteen minute intervals -- that berates viewers for their hatred for Stephen. They all serve up this lame dish of New Age "forgive and grow" shit. Reading one of these posts is like spending twenty minutes in a pretentious yoga studio.
Looks like the Fowler's have enacted 'Plan B'.
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I’m kind of butting in the middle here but I saw the Stephen Fowler apology on the ABC site as well as a post from someone who purported to be one of Renee’s clients who explained that Renee was intimidated by Stephen at the meetng with the Longs and couldn’t say anything and suggested that Renee was leaving Stephen. That post too has been deleted.
I’m not convinced the Fowler apology was really from him.
And I still cannot square either of their aplogies with Hollis’ report of the frivolity at the viewing party.
One poster on the ABC site claimed to have actually spoken to Fowler’s boss the night of the broadcast (he called to complain) and was told *oh he was just hamming it up for the camera*.. He said he heard lots of laughter and clinking glasses in the backround.
I think they are sorry at the reaction. I suspect most of their friends share the same views and they just thought oh this is hilarious. Then they realized that they are a charmed circle that no one else wants to join.
As someone earlier said…if he really believes what he said in his apology (don’t you love the line *some of my best friends are from the Midwest*? then his behavior can only be explained by demonic possession or being absolutely shitfaced the entire time. Since demonic possession is rather rare, I expect he was shitfaced and letting his true feelings come out.
Something about Gayla clicked a trigger in him. I’m wondering if he came from a lower class backround (which is important in England I would not call the Longs lower class) with a mother that was about 20 lbs overweight and wasn’t a particularly nice woman and seeing Gayla triggered some sort of mental breakdown in an already screwed up psyche.
Or else he is just a prick.
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I agree, I live in the UK, and I am American. The Brits really get off on putting people in social classes. Let's look up Stephen's family heritage and see what Po Dunk town in England, he came from. Trust me, there are plenty. Plus, my husband has more than likely been to more countries than him, as a Member in the US Military. As a matter of fact, we are serving with the Royal Air Force right now. I've had the pleasure to be in the company of a lot of wonderful British people. This man is ashamed of his past. Trust me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW6BbKQgUfU
Hollis Polk promotes dubious practices -- such as necromancy and extra terrestrial worship -- on youtube. WITCHCRAFT!
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your website is awesome!!! thank you. i posted a negative review at google maps for her business.
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Finally someone posted all the wifeswap clips....
http://www.youtube.com/user/PaloAltoCalif
so/so quality, but thanks a lot for the effort!
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SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
Like many of you, I was outraged by Stephen Fowler's behavior on Wife Swap on 1/30/09. As a result, I have e-mailed anyone who would listen, and blogged as much as I can stand. So here's my question: Clearly we have gotten Stephen and Renee's attention. They are well aware of our complaints and have been forced to pay some heed. Now what? Quite frankly, if our objective was to make the Fowlers as miserable as possible, for as long as possible, well, then I think we're being as bad as him. Personally, I don't think that was the goal of the thousands of people who have responded, like myself, with e-mails to employers, blog entries, and word of mouth. My impression is that all of us who were outraged, reacted in that way because of our sense of empathy for Gayla Long and her family, our sense of pride in our country and our military, and our general disgust and indignation with the arrogant, pompous, holier-than-thou attitude of a real jackass. All of those emotions and reactions were rolled into one tidal wave of response, triggered by Stephen "Butthead" Fowler. Again, my question is, now that we've caught his attention, where do we go from here?
Here's my idea: We make three demands (which can be arrived at by open discussion and a vote) which demands are then posted on this blog (StephenFowlerSucks.com). All other known blogs which have addressed this issue will contain a link to this blog, so that this particular blog will be a sort of "central registry" of input. We can even snail mail a hard copy of the 3 demands to Fowler in case he's not reviewing this blog. Once we communicate our set of 3 demands to Fowler, if he agrees to them, and complies with them, we call a truce. If not, the war of words rages on. My suggestion is that we open the floor to suggestions for 3 demands until Midnight, Friday, Feb 13th (the two week anniversary of the famous show). Then, some designated individual (perhaps the webmaster of this sight, if she/he agrees) reviews the various proposals, and gleans the top three. Those three are then communicated to Fowler. He then has 3 days to reject or accept. Once an accord has been reached, we suspend the "attack". In 30 days, on March 13, we confirm that he has followed through. If yes, it's all over. If not, we strike up the band again. If this procedure seems reasonable (or unreasonable) to the masses out there, please voice your opinions here. Here are MY three proposed demands: (1) Fowler issues a WRITTEN apology addressed to Gayla Long, her family, the U.S. Military, the inhabitants of Missouri, the U.S. as a whole, and his own two kids. (2) Stephen Fowler makes a verbal apology to Gayla and her family, in person, which is video taped and distributed. His own family should also be present. (3) He seeks professional counseling to address his attitudes regarding the treatment of others whom he considers "lesser beings."
Feedback on the procedure or the 3 demands?
Sincerely,
jjcul
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Response from Weight Watchers disclaiming any current affiliation with Renee Stephens despite the claims on her website of being a current consultant with them:
Thank you for contacting us. We want to assure you that Weight Watchers adheres to a philosophy that provides a supportive and encouraging environment for all its members and subscribers. Please note that Ms. Renee Stephens Fowler has never been a Weight Watchers employee or spokesperson and although she was used as a consultant in early 2008 for a limited project, she no longer has any relationship with the company in any capacity. We do not, nor have we ever, endorsed her services or business.
Sincerely, Vicki Taylor Vicki Taylor
Corporate Affairs Representative
Weight Watchers International, Inc.
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I have searched the WW site and there is no mention of this on there. I will not use WW products(I have previously) until they publicly seperate themselves from Renee. I e-mailed them and recieved no response. Is this real???
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Weight Watchers has issued a statement. Scroll down to the bottom of this website and view the comments. You'll see it there.
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I have gone back to the site and still can't find it. I entered her name in the search and came up with zero. Is there a web site besides weightwatchers.com?
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okay, hon. go to the home of this website. first page. see how there are different topics? Scroll past all of them til you get to the very bottom. I think the last topic is "something something 'outraged'". click on those comments. The message from WW is in there somewhere. But basically, they said that she isn't, nor has she ever been an employee and that she was used as a consultant one time, but that's it. Also, they said they don't endorse her services or products...nor have they ever. Hope that helps. (I am a WW member and I go to meetings every week. WW is the best program, in my opinion, b/c it focuses on changing your lifestyle slowly and gradually.)
Good luck!
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A Stephen E Fowler from San Francisco filed bankruptcy last year. Something to investigate.
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jjcul - I don't think we can make any demands nor do I think anyone thought about what we wanted except that we were outraged at this turd's arrogance. I genuinely feel sorry for Renee - I believe she is married to an emotional abuser and she needs to get out. But that is for her to decide. She made the life choice to marry him. She needs to make the life choice to leave. If she stays - then I don't feel sorry for her one bit. This man is beyond help. He has a defect in his SOUL that will probably be with him until the end of his days. I used to believe that people eventually wise up when they are on the wrong path and choosing to be mean and arrogant - but then I realized finally that some people just never get it and they are that way till they leave this earth.
I think Renee's life choices should make her reconsider whether she is really in the right business of giving OTHER people advice about their lives... Doctor heal thyself...
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OKAY, FOLKS! I'M CALLING IT! MARK MY WORD! I SAID IT FIRST! JUST REMEMBER, WHITE TRASH BODHISATTVA SAID IT FIRST...
Renee and Stephen will be on the Dr. Phil show within a year. I swear it. Look, Dr. Phil is an ABC show and we allllll know how he likes to get in the middle of things (britney and all). And let's face it, we'd watch. Wouldn't we? What do yall think? Y'all think they will be on his show?? Will y'all watch?
(doing the I called it dance)
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Hollis Polk's blog -- now taken offline -- was hilarious, she's a total climber and huckster and that the Fowlers consider her an equal should tell us all we need to know about the three of them. In fact, I can't think of anything more socially mortifying than to have people like that think I'm one of them, and I'm thrilled (or relieved) to know it'll never happen.
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Stephen, you forgot what the great British philosopher David Bowie once said..."GOD IS AN AMERICAN". Enjoy the spotlight as your world crumbles.
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This isn't all correct. Stephen works
as the CFO/VP Business Development at SunLink Corporation - it's still on his LinkedIn profile.
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MORE DAMAGE CONTROL
I got into the group to see what goes on in there. Most of you know that Renee only allows butt-kissing comments on her Inside Out Weight Loss blog. Some of you may have also seen on GOOGLE MAPS, when you type in "Mind for Body San Francisco", that amongst the reviews of Renee's 'services' and what-not, is one by a former member that says Renee used to always solicit 5 star reviews on i-tunes and she would also push her products for sale a lot. Well, on her Yahoo groups message board, she is doing it some more. She's probably upping the spin now that Yahoo has her husband's face on the front page of their website. (go to yahoo.com)
Here is the email/post that Renee sent to her Yahoo group, along with some of their responses. In Renee's words, it should be 'good for a laugh' Also note that Renee has a new email address. I guess she had to throw out her old one b/c of all the negative mail she got.
Renee's New Email:
reneemethod@gmail.com
Email/Post and responses:
Hi Wonderful Group,
I have a special request to make. I would rather not ask, but I really do
need your help.
A few nasty reviews have been posted to iTunes that haven nothing to do with
IOWL, and everything to do with the TV show I was on. I am completely open
to reviews that convey an honest opinion about IOWL, but not open to ones
that are not about the podcasts.
As you know, I offer IOWL for free as part of my mission to end the weight
struggle and enable others to develop and share their soul's gifts. I worry
that these reviews will put people off who would be helped by it.
Could you please flag these reviews as irrelevant, rate them as unhelpful,
and if you are so inclined and haven't done so already, enter your own 5
star review. That would be a wonderful thing for those that have not yet
found this free resource, and for me. Here's what to do:
1. Go on to iTunes, put "Inside Out Weight Loss" into the search to pull up
the show page.
2. Scroll down to the reviews
3. Click on "See all 186 reviews"
4. Click on "Report a concern"
5. Flag the review as off topic, or that you disagree with it.
No worries if you prefer not, and sincere and deep gratitude if you do.
Blessings and Thanks!
Renee
I normally do not respond to these post, I usually sit back and just read them.
But I have to say that Renee's pod cast have really helped me, and I just wrote my first 5 star review, lets all support Renee.
KEECHIA L. BOYD
Ditto, I wrote a 5 star review, marked the negative reviews as not
helpful, the positive reviews as helpful and "reported a concern."
You cannot change reviews that others have posted, but readers can
flag them within iTunes. Renee has given me more than one silly show
can take away and it would be a shame if others didn't give it a try
because of WS.
Jenn
I, too, posted a five star review under the name jkmohio.
Renee, hang in there, you are doing your soul's calling and I ap
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Renee is a bigger loser than her husband. As a life coach and motivational speaker, she has not been able to make one bit of difference in how her husband reacts to people or life. They are shameful human beings
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I used to be a big fan of this show but so as long as I live I will never watch another episode...I honestly god as my witness had never been angry a day in my life until I saw this jerk and his communist wife
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I have never been a big fan of the show, but agree with ProudSoutherner. I will never watch another episode or allow it to be shown in my home. Stephen Flower is a despicable man. His wife is a hypocrite and couldn't possibly help another person as long as she lives with this monster. The show's producers and ABC are no better. This was not entertainment.
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Stephen Fowler is an idiot who should not be listened to.
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I can't stand Steve Francis but Dr. Phil is such a douche bag.
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You know this guy is a jerk, no doubt about it. but when you go on a reality show like this you take your chances on what kind of people are going to be on it. This woman could have left at any time and she chose not to. mabey she would not have gotten paid, but so what. If she was really that miserable she could have left.
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"-I wonder how uncomfortable it must have been at their viewing party on Friday. Did the Fowlers not see the show ahead? There must have been deadly silence after the show and everyone must have left really fast." LOL! Reminds me of "The Jerk" (how appropriate) when all Navin's friends were watching the newscast with a cross-eyed Carl Reiner!
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Ohmygod!!! You are so right. Brilliant. This show ended up being a version of TV Aikido - the Fowl Fowlers own grandiosity brought them down. I wish someone filmed the viewing (yup, it was a viewing all right)...
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I have known many Englishmen through business. None of them are nice, down to earth people. They are sophicated, shrewd, selfish and mean. I am not surprised at all to see him behaving like this. Glad that Washington up George III's ass year ago.
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three demands is an interesting idea
but as a progressive with a ninth grade education sever dyslexia and a high I.Q. i am convinced that the wrath of the great gorilla(us)is a well needed and precise scalpel for this carpetbagger slogan jockey and his loutish bigoted behavior. if he is indeed interested in a sustainable future it's only for himself his peers and his children(IF there up to snuff).it's more that possible that he mumbled through the pledge of allegiance,and treated his his citizenship test like a visit to the D.M.V. i don't believe that he would treat a document written by a bunch of non advanced degree holding burger munching mall monkeys with anymore respect than he treated that poor woman. don't get me wrong i don't agree with a lot of American foreign and at times stood stunned in incredulity over the last 8 years but i love this country.
it's not perfect,but it's not Libya either. he has excited the enmity of a huge cross section of American's (and people from his own country)the poor, the military,the overweight,patriots environmentalist,bay area residents,ATV owners,Midwesterners,and the entire state of Missouri! (paintball folks will no doubt express there displeasure). his elitist snobbery pushed the boundary's of good taste and social tolerance in his adopted country.and we have worked hard on this for at least 40 years, hell we were founded on the principles of equality and we are starting to perfect them.
the 3 demands demonstrates the fact that some of "intellectual inferiors are willing to forgive his pompous fopperies, and god bless you for that. but,no. he needs to know that we are the ones that cook his meals take out his trash and watch him while he sleeps do not ____ with us. only then will he learn in a very real way the concepts of humility,empathy and respect of others.you know,the stuff we learned in Kindergarten he's not a 5 year old
he's a grown man he chose to be here to this hideous hoedown and you dance with them what brung you.
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this is beautiful.
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On white pages,it states he is 50 yrs old.It lists wife's name and children's name along with address and phone number.
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THIS AFTERBIRTH OF A BASTARD RAT WAS PROBABLY EDUCATED IN HARVARD OR BERKLEY.I WOULD RATHER BE A RED-NECK THAN TO BE EVEN REMOTELY RELATED TO THIS SCUM. I WOULD NEVER DEAL WITH ANY COMPANY THAT EMPLOYES HIM.
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I am curious as to the possibility that the extreme level of Mr. Fowler's behavior represents pathology. As we are discovering, there are different types of intelligence, and Mr. Fowler's complete lack of social awareness seems to be beyond normal behavior, and into the realm of disease. Perhaps it is genetic, similar to mental retardation, or perhaps it is deep-seeded emotional trauma, more like that of an abusive father who is repeating behavior exhibited on him over the years. Whichever the case, his children are the real concern. Whether inheriting his lack of social intelligence is relevant or not, they are destined to be the product of badly modeled behavior and will surely be limited by the social view he is postulating. Like children growing up in a racist family, there will come a day when they realize the bigotry they have been taught, or at least, we hope there will. At that moment, they will hopefully not be angry, but pity their father, and realize that bad behavior is unacceptable, unless of course, one has the social capacity of a two-year-old.
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One more thing...I'm the one who posted about his state being a pathological one...I've read a few more comments, and I'd just like to emphatically say that Mr. Fowler is not representative of Ms. Pelosi's congressional district as a whole, nor is he representative of all English people. I grew up in Marin County, and am from a very educated house full of educators, and am myself highly educated and married to a Brit. However, Mr. Fowler is an alien being to my husband and me, and can really only be described as in incredibly flawed individual, and not representative of any group of people. I know some snooty Brits and NorCal Environmentalists, and have gotten hot under the collar in conversations with both, but this guy is on a whole different level.
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I have a higher IQ than Steven, and I would never stoop to his level of crass behaviour towards another person. Some have made the comment that Steven was under "duress"...what duress? The only frustration this fellow seems to have is what he has made for himself. He has no one to blame but himself for his actions and his truly disgusting behaviour. It is very EASY to be negative. Don't be lazy Steven, work hard to be positive! You should be begging this poor woman, her family and your own family for forgiveness.
High IQ or not, this doesn't excuse your bad behaviour.
Another thing, LIGHTEN UP on your children. Do you truly want them to go through what you have? Some of us can see right through you. Let them be children.
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Since I am an undereducated mid western redneck, I have no way to truly express my disgust for the behaviour and attitude of stevie-poo. As a result of this unfortunate situation I find myself in, I shall drive my 5000 lb. (2268 Kg) V8 powered 27 year olde American made pick-em-up truck out to my country estate where I shall do the following to vent my frustrations: use a 2 cycle chainsaw to viciously fell a few living trees, push them across a field using a diesel fueled tractor, lovingly place them in a pit, add a hefty quantity of old tires and accelerant and set them ablaze.
If only I had the towering intellect of stevie-poo! If only I was not so stoopid. Woe is me. Woe is me!
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All the focus of this show seems to be on the parents. But the Fowler children come across as whipped dogs, unable to express any joy. Imagine living in this environment.
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